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    PaulFounder45

    I recognized approximately two decades ago that the Demon party literally offers me NOTHING. Nothing that I want, at any rate. In the intervening years, it has progressed from awful to downright dangerous. (Just ask Ross or Donald.) There is only one other viable option - no matter how much I or anyone else wishes it were otherwise - so, I have been a Republican ever since. As a libertarian-turned-conservative, who retains many libertarian leanings, it's not an alliance that gives me warm fuzzies. I assure you that there are many Republicans who piss me off - never mind Trump. But to abandon the Republican party is to empower the Demon party. There is no better example of cutting off one's nose to spite one's face.

    I've seen it work in both directions - where one wing of the party abandon's the other wing's primary winner. I have to confess that I've done it, myself. But we all NEED to recognize that the Demon party is enemy number one. Until it is dead and buried, the rest of us (including those who don't especially wish to be Republicans) cannot afford to hash-out our differences during general elections. That work must be done after general elections through primary elections. The results are the gauge of your power. Well, the power to lead. In weakness, you DO have power... to undermine - but only that which could offer a bulwark against what you REALLY don't want erected.

    Swallow your pride and bitterness. Use your influence when it can make a positive impact.

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      Granny JennyCharter29

      "There is no better example of cutting off one's nose to spite one's face." And in this case, cutting off the nose sends the whole plane down. You get my coin, Paul.

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      PaulFounder45

      @GrannyJenny Extending the "nose" analogy to a plane - fantastic!

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    ClaireFounder9(edited)

    This stood out as the most personal and persuasive part of this piece:

    “I'll be honest… I was worried Ross would fail. He's a libertarian, after all. They're loyal to principles, not people… and Trump is no libertarian.

    He passed. Even with the loudest voices in his corner telling everyone Trump had betrayed them.

    Now it's your turn.”

    Every day I see libertarian talking heads ranting about principles of liberty and the founding of America. They complain about the state of the economy and the wars. They never report the actual progress being made or the promises kept by President Trump.

    I don’t understand how so many of them believe that taking revenge on President Trump and the Republicans, by either sitting out the midterms or voting for Democrats, will achieve their libertarian goals. Especially considering the very real possibility of socialists taking over Congress.

    Perhaps that is their goal.

    “Ross in a cage” might have carried more weight in their minds than a free Ross. After all, complaining about something when you know you don’t possess the power to change it absolves you of any responsibility to alter the situation.
    And you get to keep the “soapbox” and purity badge while you’re rotting away in the gulag.

    Ross lived through the tyranny others will never experience.
    He recognized the gift of freedom given by a man who could have reneged on his promise.

    Ross is choosing the only path to greater liberty.

    May the others do the same.

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      ClayAuthor

      You saw something I didn't write, Claire. A cause is easier to keep than a win. Great comment.

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    AlanCharter100

    "They're loyal to principles, not people… "

    Really? We criticize the left, and rightly so, for thinking with their emotions rather than their intellect. Spiteful, antagonistic, angry, prideful, in many ways disconnected from reality. Reading what libertarians are quoted as saying here is disappointingly similar. I generally agree with libertarian principles that closely align with Conservatism, principles that benefit humanity when put into practice. But unfortunately, the disconnect between libertarians themselves and the libertarian principles they espouse is apparently just as wide as the disconnect between the left and objective reality.

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      PaulFounder45

      I already spent my coin; but this hits the bulls-eye.

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    TrishFounder37

    In the same way that reading posts saying, "I didn't agree with Charlie Kirk, but he didn't deserve to die," enrages me every time I see it, the "I don't like everything Trump is doing, but we need to vote for him," argument enrages me. And I'm saying this to someone I respect and admire, in every aspect.

    Charlie did not deserve to die, period. I don't give a rat's ass if you agree with him or not. He did not deserve to die. This is not a message that should be diluted in any way whatsoever. Dilution communicates doubt about your claim, and disrespect for the profundity of his wrongful death.

    Voting against Trump in this midterm is a vote that ultimately helps Democrat candidates win, and every single thing that you see for the next two years as the result of every Democrat win will redound to you and your actions. I don't give a rat's ass if you love everything Trump has done or not.

    Either you vote for him, or you're inviting the Autopen brigade for yet another crack at running your life. This is the very same brigade that sent a man who operated a web site (and where am I saying this, exactly?) to maximum security prison with its hole of solitary confinement *for life.* To this day, Wikipedia describes him as an American cybercriminal; that will not wash off. Diluting the message disrespects the profundity of who made the choice and took the risk to liberate Ross from Hell, and it enrages me.

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      ClayAuthor

      Trish, thank you for saying this.

      I feel the same rage you do when someone says "I didn't agree with him, but..." Charlie didn't deserve to die. It's the decency disclaimer. It's in my arsenal of moves in The Arena. A common one.

      But the piece doesn't do that. The decency disclaimer apologizes for a truth. I conceded their grievances... then asked for the vote anyway.

      I do have problems with Trump. I do agree with the libertarians on many of their grievances with him. That's the truth. What I don't agree with is how libertarians behave.

      And notice the ask didn't get softer. "Especially if it hurts" means vote Republican while you're still mad. That's a harder ask, not a softer one... and it's the thought I wanted them to walk away with.

      I'm glad you pushed on it. Keep pushing.

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    walkerlllpCharter8(edited)

    From a recovering libertarian this is not only a must read, but a must act piece. Principles without power are akin to a car without a key; nice to have but you aren’t going anywhere.
    Sometimes when reading or listening to former fellow libertarians, I find myself nodding my head and becoming righteous in my indignation. But for what? What are we but useful tools for those who have power already?
    Other times, I get mad. Why? Because it appears when I really think about it, some of these libertarian voices are either unwittingly falling victim to their own power, the large audiences they engage, or they screaming at the clouds for a world that has never existed. I used to be the latter. Governance requires power and the sacrifice of at least some of your principles. Utopia doesn’t exist in the realm of humans.

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    ClayAuthor

    "Principles without power, a car without a key." Dead on, Walker.

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    RitaFounder25Hunter

    All my years of fiercely clinging to the Libertarian ideal amounted to wasted votes and hollow passion. I finally opened my eyes to the truth and I fervently pray my fellows will do the same.

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      ClayAuthor

      Rita, I know that feeling. It's hard to look back on. Glad you're here with us now.

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    Tim WycislakFounder101(edited)

    I'm voting Republican this election. I voted Libertarian since before Ross was jailed. Didn't make a bit of difference. We didn't win. Nothing changed. Then I voted for Donald. He kept his promise. Things changed. He does what he says he'll do. I like that. I like that a lot.

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      ClayAuthor

      Tim, twenty years of votes and nothing changed. One vote and Ross walked out. That says it all.

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    KimFounder40

    When I voted Libertarian, I can't count how many times I was told I was throwing my vote away. I always believed voting my conscience was most important and I was satisfied with my vote. I still lean Libertarian for the values as I understand them but have no delusion that a Libertarian can win without changes made. Always conservative, I will vote Republican.
    Thank you for your writing, Clay.

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      ClayAuthor

      Kim... you can keep the values and still vote to win. That's not giving up your principles, it's giving them a chance. Thank you for this.

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    Sue P.Charter49

    Libertarians, I'll make this short and sweet. None of us get everything we want from our politicians or political parties, none of us. A seat is reserved for Libertarians at our republican table, we are willing to work with you. The other side of the isle extends no such offer. Do you truly want no chance in hell of getting your input being heard if the leftists win the midterms? I don't feel that your impact on the midterms is as powerful as you've been led to believe. What is very powerful is that we want you at our table, plain and simple. Libertarians voting 3rd party or not voting at all in an attempt to flex will gain you nothing but eye rolls and possibly a sigh or two. Join us at the midterms, and beyond, where you will be given opportunities to make meaningful changes. Those are the real flex. I guess that wasn't really short but it was sweet.

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      PaulFounder45

      I'll allow that libertarians (big or small "L") aren't necessarily wanted at ALL Republican tables. Insert yourselves anyway. You CAN get a hearing. But in the Democratic Socialists of America? Are you kidding me??? That's attempting to mix your oil with their water.

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      ClayAuthor

      A seat at the table. That's the invitation they need to hear. Thanks, Sue.

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    Granny JennyCharter29

    "Trump, he wrote, had 'prioritized renaming the Gulf of Mexico over his Day 1 promise.' - The pardon came one day late..."

    Huh. Seems Trump doesn't have the corner on pettiness. Or arrogance.

    "If Dave and Clint get their way, the coalition that freed Ross loses power in November...and it goes to the party that put him in that cell."

    Crazy where "performing purity" takes you. "Already in hell"? Seriously? It would be laughable if it wasn't beyond sad.

    I truly hope many of these folks come around. We have enough mass psychoses. We need ALL the lone good guys to step up and say, they just can't get past Charlie, or Ross...or whoever the next ones will be if the "progressives" win the midterms.

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      PaulFounder45

      "Seems Trump doesn't have the corner on pettiness." I love this. The rest of it, too.

      I need multiple coins to give!

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      ClayAuthor

      "Trump doesn't have the corner on pettiness." Ha! Chase Oliver sure proved that one, Jenny.

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    NathanFounder97

    It may be trite, but this election is about freedom. Ross is looking at the facts, and he is staying principled. Libertarians, I too am angry at some of Trump's actions. But the midterms are the time to show progressives our country is still about liberty and freedom for all.

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      ClayAuthor

      Not trite at all, Nathan. Angry and still showing up. That's exactly the ask.

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    Kent W.Founder7

    What a beautiful piece of writing. Ross is so lucky to have Clay and we him.

    I shared the post because we need as many people as possible to read this.

    Stay close all

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      ClayAuthor

      Thank you, Kent!

      stay close

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Clay is the author of Stop Being Prey. Software engineer by trade. Writer by necessity. Twenty years inside libertarianism, out for good. Hosts the largest Thomas Sowell page on Facebook. Now writing the right's missing strategic playbook.

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